Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Saturday, Sept. 26, compared President Donald Trump to a German Nazi propagandist and struggled to make points during an interview with MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle.

Biden likened President Trump to Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels when asked about the president’s criticism that he was pushing a socialist agenda.

“Well, uh, I’m not sure anybody that hadn’t already made up their mind they’re for Trump, but who knows,” Biden told Ruhle. “But that’s, you know, he’s sort of like Goebbels, you say the lie long enough, keep repeating, repeating, repeating, it becomes common knowledge.”

Biden then deflected the criticism, saying that the president was using socialism as a way to distract from his handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

“The other week I was too moderate, as you remember. I was too tough. And now the American people, I think they know who I am. They know my heart. They know my story, my family story. Trump is using socialism to scare and distract Floridians from a failed pandemic,” he said.

During another portion of the interview, Biden appeared to lose his train of thought and was saved by Ruhle.

“For example, the Paycheck Protection Act, you know, one percent of the money’s gone out,” Biden claimed. “One percent. One percent of the, uh, the—that’s not the Paycheck, the, the, the, um, uh, the, uh, the bill for small, for major, for small businesses—”

“Mainstream lending,” Ruhle interjected.

“Mainstream lending, one percent’s gone out,” Biden continued.

Biden also appeared to forget the host’s name, “One thing I gotta, we gotta communicate, John, Joh—, look, the whole notion of what’s going on here is we cannot let, have an excuse for him to avoid what needs to be done,” he said.

The vice president slipped his tongue during a separate event, saying, “I got to the Senate 180 years ago.”

President Trump and Biden are set to debate in Cleveland on Tuesday evening. Biden has called a lid multiple times this month. On Thursday, the former vice president announced a lid shortly after 9 a.m. to prepare for the debate.